tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post114270064495468313..comments2023-11-05T13:01:51.043+01:00Comments on Al-Baal Café: Doha Debate on ExtremismShaykhspeara Sha'irahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00833022453340893713noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1143466187462402192006-03-27T15:29:00.000+02:002006-03-27T15:29:00.000+02:00Ahh lucky you farrukh! What is all this nightwatch...Ahh lucky you farrukh! <BR/><BR/>What is all this nightwatching you are doing? Go to bed!Shaykhspeara Sha'irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00833022453340893713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1143331128487943882006-03-26T00:58:00.000+01:002006-03-26T00:58:00.000+01:00I would have loved to discuss this with Tim - had ...I would have loved to discuss this with Tim - had spotted him at the IAA World Congress last week. But just saw your post tonight - or is it day - 4 am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1142953422529855892006-03-21T16:03:00.000+01:002006-03-21T16:03:00.000+01:00Ahh true indeed. I know of many men who have said ...Ahh true indeed. I know of many men who have said that they feel their manhood is being compromised when the woman is not needy of them. <BR/><BR/>The problem lies deeper, in the idea of manhood being established at the cost of a woman's ambition.Shaykhspeara Sha'irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00833022453340893713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1142952802450424592006-03-21T15:53:00.000+01:002006-03-21T15:53:00.000+01:00As Hamza Yusuf said, we feel a need to protect our...As Hamza Yusuf said, we feel a need to protect our women in our societies. I think most men can't stand it if their women don't <I>need</I> them.<BR/><BR/>Even if parents encourage their daughters to study and work (which I think is happening a lot more these days), once the girl gets married, her husband has something to say about it. I think it stems mostly from men's insecurities... we all want highly educated and qualified wives, but not many know how to be with someone who can think for themselves!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1142765629336673492006-03-19T11:53:00.000+01:002006-03-19T11:53:00.000+01:00Yeah he certainly was, and there is an element of ...Yeah he certainly was, and there is an element of disarming charm to Archbishop Tutu that I find refreshing. <BR/><BR/>I know what you mean, the focus was definately on the muslim world however Hamza Yusuf as always brings up the issue of women, thankfully. <BR/><BR/>I really liked it when he said regarding the Quranic verse of the girls asking why they are buried alive. He said "There are many ways to bury someone alive, not just in a hole in the ground. I feel we bury our women (in the muslim world)." <BR/><BR/>Ahh gotta love Hamza Yusuf.Shaykhspeara Sha'irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00833022453340893713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1142762872667478342006-03-19T11:07:00.000+01:002006-03-19T11:07:00.000+01:00Managed to catch the second half of the show. Hamz...Managed to catch the second half of the show. Hamza Yusuf was impressive, as always... and so was Archbishop Tutu. The other two were, I thought, just stating the obvious and repeating what we hear on and off from other sources.<BR/><BR/>As for extremism, there are always multiple contexts in which the word may be used. Recently, it seems to have taken the meaning "killing people without regard to anyone's life (not even one's own) for a cause". I was glad the debate left that particular topic and went on to women's equity issues as well.<BR/><BR/>What was disappointing, despite being expected, was the fact that even though the topic was <I>religion-neutral</I>, the discussion mostly revolved around extremism in Islam and Muslim societies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20179300.post-1142761709991810062006-03-19T10:48:00.000+01:002006-03-19T10:48:00.000+01:00Welcome Balushi, good to have you here.Indeed your...Welcome Balushi, good to have you here.<BR/><BR/>Indeed your point is exactly what they were discussing at the debate. The need to see extremism also in a context, all be it, social, political or economical. <BR/><BR/>Desmond Tutu was part of the panel, a man who won the Nobel Peace Prize but at one point in his life also was called an Exremist.<BR/><BR/>It is a term often defined by those in power surpressing the struggle for freedom of others.<BR/><BR/>However the extremism that takes civilian lives and the kind we are seeing in Iraq today, canot be justified under the banner of freedom fighting when they blow up school girls at the side of the road.Shaykhspeara Sha'irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00833022453340893713noreply@blogger.com