March 19, 2006

Naked Netherland Nonsense

In the Swedish newspaper Metro one could yesterday read about implemented plans for integrating non-European immigrants.

On the schedule for immigrants who want to be future citizens of the Netherlands, the following will be found (besides studying 375 hours of Dutch in their previous country of residence):

  1. Watching a movie where homosexual couples are kissing
  2. Watching a movie starring a bare breasted woman (Right, so that will keep people away from the Netherlands?)

The Dutch Integration Minister Rita Verdonk explains, "(It) will implement Dutch liberal values in potential non-European immigrants. "

Leaders of immigrant groups however feel the film is nothing but a means to deter potential non-European immigrants (read: Muslims) from coming to The Netherlands.

I see, so European Russia saying no to the Pride march being held in Moscow does not count for intolerance against homosexuals?

BBC News covered the story a while back in an article saying Germany has implemented similar methods of "integrating" immigrants and have even gone so far as to have a special test aimed at Muslims. Here are some of the questions in the test:

How do you view the statement that a woman should obey her husband, and that he can beat her if she doesn't?

Umm even if the person asked was a wife beater, do they really expect him to say "that's correct."

Imagine that your son comes to you and declares that he's a homosexual and would like to live with another man. How do you react?

And last but not least my favorite

Some people hold the Jews responsible for all the evil in the world, and even claim they were behind the attacks of 11 September 2001 in New York. What is your view of this claim?

If this isn't "opinion registration", then I don't know what is.


Edward Ott said...

they should distribute this video to xtian churches in holland and if they don't like it be told to leave, or for some real good publicity distribute it to church groups in the USA. watch how fast they start screaming for a boycott of holland.


Shaykhspeara Sha'ira said...

Welcome edward! Good to have you here, I have read some of your posts, they are truly original.

I agree with you. The tests are so absurd in themselves and hint towards a supposed intolerance that is privy only to Muslims of Non-European background.

BuJ said...

oh dear.. this is stupid, pointless, biased, and racist.

you'd never see any of this in the UK (yet).. very weird stuff.. honestly.. i object the most to the studying of Dutch.. ok fair enough it's not nice to see two homos at each others' throats.. and the movie with the topless woman might be quite interesting (maybe she's Eritrian).. but the language hours is rediculous!!

375 hours is equivalent to more than 8 weeks (45 hrs per week) of constant lessons.. that's equivalent to two FULL working months.. it's dumb.
plus anyone studying languages can tell you that studying and understanding are two different concepts. That's why TESTS are devised!

Suppose you already speak Dutch but you learnt it outside the low-lands? You have to waste 2 months showing that you learnt it? Is that maybe because there is high unemployment in language teachers Holland?

I never liked KLM for their crappy customer service.. now I have another reason not to goto Holland (not that I'd ever consider living there).

khanana said...

yeah seen that documentary, many turks are applying for legal status and facing that difficult situation in signing that document to get immigration.

O by the way I like the idea of testing such ridicules initiatives with churches too :P somebody ask them to get their signoffs first haha

anywayz.. few muslims have taken this to their local court, lets see what comes out!

khanana said...

Just missed your opinion registration …. Dint know you write and ask bold things here too :P ... things that ask ppl to open up their minds and words..

well…. you can say, such thought would be, replying in the same tone as of their stereotyping and biasness. We can not hold Jews for All the evil things… (you know few evils very well, who are not Jews atleast ha ha ) …

o yeah think about massacres in Gujarat and Africa … what Jews had to do there and what could they get? anywayz… I know few really good Jews who worked with me on various international projects and also heard similar myths about Muslims.

rather same myth is being used globally against Muslim extremistism and proven as an effective tool to hold Muslim states and their leading powers.


Shaykhspeara Sha'ira said...

Buj, eh wallah, racist akeed. Ma bihibb KLM kaman besides el buji airlines ha yekoon ahsan, mo?

Indeed khanana holding all jews responsible for evil is the equivalent of islamophobes and racists holding all muslims responsible for terrorism. It is simply absurd.

However, in this so called democratic europe, to register people's opininos against their will so to speak, is not legally justifiable. You can eg. in sweden not be forced to say what political party you voted for. Nor what your standing on Terrorism is, should that be asked. Nor your view on muslims. There are laws regulating such things.

The questions in these tests undermine those rights as well as personal, individual integrity..

khanana said...

asking churches to signoff was a joke not anyone's opinion to regulate over laws..

anywayz... good show

Shaykhspeara Sha'ira said...

I'm aware it was a joke. I wasn't talking about that at all. It is clear in my comment that I am referring to teh test itself in its nature, being issued to non european immigrants. Not the joke you refer to.

kaya said...

Guess who's coming to dinner?
I clicked on the test link and what did I get

We apologize the site you are attempting to visit has been blocked due to its content being inconsistent with the religious, cultural, political and moral values of the United Arab Emirates.


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BuJ said...

kaya... is the survey link blocked or that of albal?

Shaykhspeara Sha'ira said...

kaya yeh kya bakwaas hai? pata kya? voh link jo hai, militant islam monitor vala hai, shaid is liye blocked hua?

Lekin is website mai koi bori baat to nahi hai?

Balushi said...

And they come here in Our Countries and Enforce their Values on us!!!!

hint hint* Secy!

BuJ said...

why do u call her Secy?

kaya said...

@ buj
No not albaal.(GOD FORBID!)
Balushi used "secy" as a nickname for secret dubai.

As for the "secy" question BALUSHI Saheb jo itna waqaalat kartay hai SECRET DUBAI ki has been BANNED from her BLOG.
Tch tch!